Lots of questions and criticism, not much love for Affordable Care Act at state forum

05/08/2012 12:11 PM

A public forum focused on the effects of the Affordable Care Act on Monday at times shifted from being a discussion about the intent and potential effects of requiring Americans to have health insurance to being a tea party rally against the measure.

Many of the comments and questions posed to a panel of state regulators, health and insurance officials, focused on the effect of the individual mandate that requires Americans to have health insurance, as well as insurance exchange pools that cast a wide net to include more paying insurers. The forum was held at the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet’s auditorium in Frankfort.

John Kemper, a Lexington developer and former Republican candidate for state auditor who has been active in the tea party movement, asked how a health insurance exchange would be more efficient than the private market.

William J. Nold, director of the department of health and life insurance for the Kentucky Department of Insurance, fielded the question saying that the goal of the exchange is to bring in young people, many of whom don’t carry health insurance, to spread the risk.

“What you (currently) end up with is an insurance pool that contains older people and naturally maybe less healthy people. So the rates are based on those pools. When you get other people involved into the system, especially younger people, it’s designed to drive down costs,” Nold said.

Carol Miller, a small business owner from Wilmore, suggested a church-based health insurance pool.

Harriette Seiler, who was born in Canada and now lives in Louisville, said she opposes the mandate for everyone to carry health insurance but says she favors a universal health care approach.

Another woman, who identified herself only as former teacher whose daughter suffers from cancer, had an intense exchange with new Health and Family Services Secretary Audrey Haynes and Carrie Banahan, executive director of the office of health policy.

One 23-year-old from Louisville said he doesn’t “want to subsidize everyone’s grandmothers’ insurance.”

- Video by Greg Pursifull

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Comments

  • Bruce Layne wrote on May 09, 2012 10:20 AM :

    I think the state got more than they bargained for with this forum. It wasn’t well promoted, but word leaked out to those who oppose the so-called Affordable Care Act, so the state wasn’t able to pack the forum with ObamaCare supporters.

    I can just imagine governor Beshear saying, “Oh [expletive], I thought you said the TEA party had disappeared?”

    Early in the forum, the panel was asked if this was a voluntary or mandatory program, and they said it was voluntary. Later, after they admitted that the cost savings for the elderly would result from adding young people to the covered pool, they were asked why young people would voluntarily pay higher prices for health care insurance. They went into a huddle to confer, and then admitted that they had previously misspoken. This is not a voluntary program.

    It seemed that the people on the panel didn’t understand the most basic aspects of what they were proposing. It also seemed that they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to even the most fundamental understanding of free markets.

  • Whatever wrote on May 09, 2012 11:51 AM :

    That 23-year old nutjob doesn’t seem to realize he already pays for grandmother’s insurance with his FICA taxes. But he probably lives in his parents basement.

  • Shirley Dees wrote on May 09, 2012 09:48 PM :

    If health insurance was not so high to start with people would have it. They would gladly purchase it. But when health care cost almost 700.00 a month and that is equivalent to a house payment than most cannot afford it. They are forced to decide if they want to be homeless to afford insurance. Get rid of all the junk and the high priced charges like foam and aluminum leg braces that cost 700.00 and are only used for 3 weeks. No more walking people’s dogs and taking pet insurance. Cut the cost of the meds. When one has no insurance scrips cost less. Who allows the price to be raised when you pay to have coverage. Meds used to cost 8 times what they do with insurance- does that make sense? And make sure the ‘elite’ in government positions don’t get their insurance FREE. We are losing our good doctors. And I don’t want to pay for abortions- for other people’s birth control. I don’t believe in abortion. When you go against God’s law that is wrong and what brought the fall of Rome. Abortion is being used as a birth control. States should not be run by the Federal government. Big government is not the answer. Independence and freedom for all actually works. Don’t do let the feds run out state. Why is Kentucky rushing into this health care? We don’t even want it. By the way- did anyone stop to think that all the babies they get rid of would be tax payers some day and things would probably balance out eventually.

  • Cumberland Gap wrote on May 15, 2012 10:26 AM :

    Panelists should have asked will tea party supporters sign a statement they will forever not utilize any of the benefits Obamacare gives them?

    Of course not. They or family members will be first in line when they are sick to get the benefits. Then, they will bash everyone else for using the benefits.

  • Thirza Peevey wrote on May 16, 2012 07:28 PM :

    Cumberland Gap, where does Obama get the benefits he “gives” people? The government has no power to earn money. It can get money by only two methods. It can take the money from people who earn money, which means they work for it without getting it. That is called stealing. Or it can print extra money, which means that every dollar in circulation is devalued in order to give value to the money printed. That is called theft by deception. The government doesn’t “give” anything because it doesn’t have anything to “give.” It can only take. And after it takes, it tends to use that money for its personal piggy bank, like the federal government does with Postal Service pensions, and the state does with teacher retirement pensions. You get the dregs of whatever is left.

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