Did the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation look into allegations against Sen. Carroll?

07/24/2017 04:51 PM

What did they know, and when did they know it?

U.S. Sen. Howard Baker asked a version of that question in regards to President Richard Nixon’s involvement in a cover-up of a break in at the Watergate office building.

The Republican Party of Kentucky has now posed a version of that question to those who were in power in 2005 when Sen. Julian Carroll, D-Frankfort, allegedly groped and propositioned photographer Jason Geis, 30 years old at the time, for sex.

Geis had sought Carroll’s help getting into a certain art school in February of 2005. Carroll, who spoke in the secret recording about his connections to representatives at that school, repeatedly asked for sex acts from Geis.

Carroll admitted to State Police that he asked for oral sex from Geis, according to documents obtained by Pure Politics during an 11 month long investigation He said it was a test and that if Geis had agreed Carroll says he would have left. Pure Politics sought to uncover if Carroll used his position to seek the sexual favors, and if there was a cover up of the incident.

Republican Party of Kentucky spokesman Tres Watson issued a statement in response to the story on Sunday asserting that there need to be answers to a potential cover up of the incident.

“Also, there is a question whether those affiliated with him may have used their influence to alter the course of the investigation,” Watson said in the statement.

“This is an extremely disturbing case and we hope a full investigation is conducted into both the actions of Senator Carroll and whether or not Frankfort politicians used their influence to alter the path of the investigation in the aftermath.”

During the course of the investigation Geis claimed he not only met with the Kentucky State Police, but also the Kentucky Bureau of Investigations, a law enforcement division inside former Democratic Attorney General Greg Stumbo’s office. The KBI was then being led by current Louisville metro council member David James.

Geis told Pure Politics the he thought he was dealing with the Federal Bureau of Investigations.

“I didn’t even know who the KBI was, I thought it was like the FBI,” Geis said. “I gave the evidence to the enemy that was his special group to protect him.”

Geis told Pure Politics he was not sure how the Kentucky Bureau of Investigations became involved in the investigation, and at times in the recounting of his story he would confuse meetings between the KBI and Kentucky State Police.

When the photographer was shown a series of pictures by Pure Politics of former KBI agents working in the public corruption and special investigations division of the agency, he identified two men who he said came into contact with him.

Pure Politics also spoke with two law enforcement sources who indicated that the Kentucky Bureau of Investigations was aware of the tape, and did speak with Geis.

Greg Stumbo, a Democrat, and the Attorney General at the time of the incident in 2005, claims the KBI never looked into the claims by Geis, and was unaware of a tape.

“No. No. No. That’s absolutely false,” Stumbo said in a phone interview.

“You could call David James, you could call anybody. No. Nothing even remotely like that was ever brought to our attention.”

Stumbo said if the incident caught on tape between Carroll and Geis had been reported to KBI it would have been brought to his attention as the Attorney General for Kentucky.

Former KBI commissioner David James, a Democratic Louisville metro council member also did not recollect an investigation into the matter.

James explained to Pure Politics in an interview in his metro council office the course of how investigations were worked at KBI, adding “I don’t recall that particular scenario ever taking place.”

James said if there had been an investigation that George Wilding, the branch manager of public corruption unit at the Kentucky Bureau of Investigations, would have been aware of it.

We tracked down Wilding at his home in Frankfort, but he had no comment when asked about an investigation into the allegations.

The Kentucky Bureau of Investigations is now known as the Department of Criminal Investigations or DCI.


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